Below is supposed to be the basis for the 7 year tribulation.  According to the article, the last week of the 70 weeks is the 7 year tribulation.  The timeline is supposed to start when the temple of Jerusalem is rebuilt.

Daniel 9:24-27 King James Version (KJV)

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The following articles are presented on some thoughts of the 70 weeks:

The above is a Wikipedia article. For the purposes of this, we will use the “Futurist” view with the Great Tribulation being destruction of 75 percent of the world’s population.

The “Historicism” view is the 7 years is a period of 1260 “days” between 538 to 1798 AD with Matt 24:29 being  signs in the 18th century.  The Papacy has been deemed as the “AntiChrist” since its inception and even some 20th century religious tracts have suggested that the “modern ” bibles are infiltration by Catholicism to distort the King James Version.  It has also been stated that the Papacy has been behind the Inquisition and even the rise to power of Adolf Hitler. The Millerites incorrectly predicted the end of the world to be 1844.  The Jehovah’s Witnesses 1874, 1914, 1918, 1925 and 1975.

The claim of the Papacy being the AntiChrist is derived from the title “VICARIVS FILII DEI” (Vicar of Christ) where the Roman numerals add to 666.  Lately Catholics have been making the claim of ELLEN GOULD WHITE (the founder of the Seventh Day Adventist church) being one (using U as V and W = 10).

Armstrongism (particularly David Pack of Restored Church of God) claims the AntiChrist is a leader so powerful that heads of state cannot stop it.

The Jehovah’s Witnesses claim it is the “system” (political, financial and religious entities). (the last week) (the 69 weeks leading to the death of Christ)

The above concur the 69 weeks (or 7 prophetic years per week or 2520 days = 6.9 actual years) lead up to the death of Christ from the rebuilding of Jerusalem. there seems to be a disagreement if the “prince” in 9:26 is Jesus or the antichrist.

Pay particular attention because there is a movement called “Refuse Fascism” in the US whose aim is to remove Trump and Pence by force. It is a front of the Revolutionary Communist Party.

The below video is one I thought I would throw in.  It is concurrent with my thought of a post Trib or pre-wrath Rapture.  The below verses indicate we are tested.

Zechariah 13:7-9 King James Version (KJV)

Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the Lord of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones. And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

The first two groups are the Jews who followed Moses and the first century Christians.  Many restorationist churches profess that the church of Christ was apostatized after the death of the apostles and that the new church arose between the 19th and 20th centuries.

1 Peter 1:7 King James Version (KJV)

That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

Romans 5:3-4 King James Version (KJV)

And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; And patience, experience; and experience, hope:

The below video shows Christians will experience tribulations.

The remaining week would be the 7 year tribulation period. The midpoint of it is below.

Daniel 12:11 King James Version (KJV)

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Matthew 24:15 King James Version (KJV)

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

If one wants to claim the Pope is the Antichrist (who makes a midpoint change), consider the following article:

Up to this point, the Pope has been thought of as borderline liberal, promoting unity among both professing Christians, Muslims, Jews and pagans. according to this article, the Great Tribulation occurs at this point, the antichrist is exposed and He enacts His wrath.

Revelation 13:5 The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months.

The event of epic proportions would be as follows:

Daniel 12:12 King James Version (KJV)

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

Revelation 9:15-16 And the four angels who had been kept ready for this very hour and day and month and year were released to kill a third of mankind. The number of the mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand. I heard their number.

According to Biblical prophecy, the 45 days of Daniel 12:12 are when God’s wrath is enacted on those that either accepted the mark of the beast or failed to heed His commands. The church (1 Thess 4:16-17, Rev 20:4-6, Rev 7:14–17) would be lifted at end of the Great Tribulation.

Estimates of the start of the 7 years:

Initial estimates in this blog (which started in mid 2016) had placed the start of the 7 year period of the Tribulation in 2009 with the inauguration of Obama.  Also, some members of a certain religion estimated that it began at that same time when its previous leader died and the son assumed the duties (plus they claim it was apostatized at that time). During this time frame, Pope Francis assumed the duties of the Papacy (which is almost a midpoint) and promoted a One World Religion between Sept 2015 with a conference in Jan 2016 of religious leaders. In Sept 2016, Obama and the Pope had a closed door session.  During Nov 2016, numerous riots happened in the United States in protest of Donald Trump’s election as President.  This period has come and gone, plus a “One World Religion” still has not materialized nor has a “One World Government,” so the start is not 2009.

Pope Francis assumed the Papacy on March 31, 2013.  This would place the 45 days of Daniel 12:12 at approximately Feb 2020 and make the end in April 2020 IF this would be the prophetic start of the seven years.  What differs about this Pope is he has taken a more left wing stance and proclaimed certain things that have gone against “tradition” (first being that Dec 25 is not the actual birth of Jesus and many non-Trinitarians know this already; the most recent is the claim that “hell” does not exist, which has been a teaching of 7th Day Adventists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Biblical Unitarians, Armstrongism).  Also around this time frame is mainstream religions who started performing same sex marriages and it being legal in many states and countries, plus LGBT and transgender have been allowed to serve in the US military (this may have a bearing in what is to follow).  Coincidentally, Barack Obama was inaugurated as President of the United States for a second term (during his tenure, Osama Bin Laden was killed).  At the approximate 3.5 year period of the Pope’s tenure, Rodrigo Duterte was elected President of the Philippines and Donald Trump was elected President of the United States (this could factor in the “midpoint” part of the equation, which is discussed later).

Rev 14:7 is the “hour of judgment” of 41 years and 8 months. This would include the 7 year tribulation at the end, given the next event is Rev 14:8 is the “fall of Babylon”  The “hour” is covered in detail in a separate article but, nonetheless. based on this, the “hour” would end in 2020 or 2027.

According to some of the articles, the  7 year period would start with a 7 year peace treaty in the middle east and the elimination of radical Islam.   One article mentions the New World Order (which includes a One World Government and One World Religion). Many articles show that an attempt was made on Apr 29, 2014. show various attempts. An article shows the Pope signing a treaty with Palestine on 26 June 2015 that supposedly was supposed to aid Israel-Palestine peace talks.

This video has an interesting thought of the antichrist setting himself up in the temple and proclaiming himself as God.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 King James Version (KJV)

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Some former members of a certain religion believes it is the current leader doing so around mid 2015.  This would place the end of the 3.5 years  approximately Jan 2019 with the belief that Daniel 12:11 applies to their church being supposedly apostatized. They also claim that wearing a certain emblem is the “mark of the beast” in Rev 13:16-17 and previously preached the Catholic “sign of the cross” has been it.

The Seventh Day Adventist and Armstrongist religions believe  the mark of the beast is Sunday worship or laws that mandate closing of businesses on Sunday.

The below passage was mentioned in a video in relation to the 7 year peace treaty between the Pope (supposed antichrist) and Israel.

Revelation 6:1-2 King James Version (KJV)

And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

So we have an estimate between Jan 2019 and sometime in 2027 for the end of the Great Tribulation.

What would supposedly start the 7 year period is the antichrist and Israel signing a 7 year deal for peace in the Middle East.  Many videos say this HAS to happen.  One of the links above shows “New World Order” happening at the start of the 7 year period (the Great Tribulation is supposedly where 75 percent of the world’s population is killed). Also, earlier in this post there was a forum where the argument about whether the prince in Dan 9:26 is Jesus or the antichrist. This writer would tend to agree that it is the antichrist.

The first general thought is the Pope negotiating a 7 year deal with Israel.

The second train of thought is Trump negotiating a 7 year peace deal in the Middle East. this and a number of other articles would indicate that Donald Trump and/or Jared Kushner (son in law, who is also Jewish) are negotiating a peace treaty.

The third thought (not mentioned to the General Public) is the Pope and “spiritual Israel”  (two non-Mainstream religions come to mind and they both claim to have the “truth”; however, one has nothing to do with government and the other seems to welcome government).  Another thing in this equation is both religions have congregations in Israel.  There are also Protestant religions in Israel.

What is a common thing in the first two thoughts is the elimination of radical Islam/ISIS.  If the Pope is promoting a “One World Religion”, radical Islam is an impediment since they are murdering Catholics.  Also, Trump claims to be on the verge of eliminating ISIS.

President of the United States:

One thing Obama did on Sept 23, 2016 was have a closed door conference with the Pope. Again, this could be an entry point to the 3.5 years (which is pretty close to when the Pope started his office).

When Trump was elected President, it was a start of numerous riots by the Left (particularly the group ANTIFA or ANTI FAscist) that continued through Inauguration. Also a group called “Refuse Fascism” (which is sponsored by, and which has been promoting, the Revolutionary Communist Party) was aligned with ANTIFA until about March 2017 (when a rash of floodings and disasters started, along with open clashes with right wing extremists; most notably an incident in Charleston W Va where a protester was killed by a vehicle).  Also a number of shootings up to the most recent Parkland school shooting have prompted for stricter gun laws (including better documentation of those that US Code prevents from legally owning them). There was also a conspiracy theory by the far right that Nov 4 would be a power grid blackout and a civil war between ANTIFA and the neo-Nazis or “patriots”; that did not happen and the “Refuse Fascism” protests were not the so-called “millions in the streets day after day”.  Another turnabout of the so-called “midpoint” is the arrest and detaining of illegal immigrants and prohibition of refugees from some Muslim countries.

World Leaders:

Russia: Vladimir Putin just recently got re-elected as President.  One major thing in 2017 was the banning of Jehovah’s Witness as “extremists” where police raided Kingdom Halls and arrested members.

Philippines: Rodrigo Duterte was elected president in May 2016 and is due for reelection in  2019.  A drug war commenced with about 3000 dead as a byproduct.  Also a number of religiously motivated murders started taking place in 2017 (in Marawi, some Catholics were beheaded by Islam extremists for not converting  to Islam, four supporters of a former member of an influential church were murdered execution style; recently, an Iglesia Ni Cristo minister, a Catholic priest, a Jehovah’s Witness “preacher”  a city mayor and a Canadian citizen were shot).  Duterte is up for re-election in 2019. The murders could possibly be by a group that would make it appear that these were commanded by a certain religious leader.

Also of note since 2017 is the close calls to the start of WW3 (last near North Korea and the potential related to Syria).

“New World Order”: this includes the One World Government and One World Religion.  this was the thought of a “New World Order” in 1919.  The League of Nations was formed and in 1945, it became the UN.  Currently there is also NATO and the European Union.

Supposedly the definition is a socialist/communist style One World Government and One World Religion with UN troops occupying all countries and the United Nations (UN) in charge.  In 2015, the Pope promoted both and there are videos of Jacob Rothschild (part of the family that owns the central banks of most countries in the world) promoting it.

The roadblock to a “One World Religion” is ISIS and radical Islam since the Pope’s goal is to unite Muslims, Protestants, Jewish, and Buddhist leaders.  Radical Islam advocates the killing of infidels and homosexuals (some of the murder victims are Catholics and there have been executions of gays in the Middle East).

The financial roadblock is that four countries do not have Rothschild owned central banks (Syria, Iran, North Korea and Cuba).  Additionally, Duterte and Putin have vowed to remove Rothschild owned banks from their countries. Russia also supports the Syrian government.  Jacob Rothschild appears to be leaning in a conservative direction, given he is partners with Rupert Murdoch (the CEO of Fox News) in a Syria project and it is also rumored that Trump is a puppet of Rothschild. in fairness, present this as a counter to a conspiracy theory.

The issue with the One World Government being communist is that Communism is atheistic in nature and there would be zero religion.  Two proofs of religious intolerance would be North Korea executing people who owned bibles in 2013 and also Mynamar persecuting Muslims in that country.

Putin has claimed to crush the NWO.  United Kingdom has voted to depart the European Union in 2019.  There have been proposals by the US and Philippines to withdraw from the UN.

In order for the “defined NWO” to happen as per the opening paragraph of this section, a complete turnover of Congress in the US, removal of Trump as President, and removal of Duterte and Putin.  To be totally communist, Islam, Judaism and Christianity would have to be abolished. Also, at the most recent Bilderberg conference, a subject of discussion supposedly was the rise of “populist” governments (which pose a threat to the globalist agenda).

The possibility of the NWO being the OPPOSITE of what is initially defined at the beginning does exist and it could go under the guise of “crushing NWO.” Fascism would involve a state religion.

In the New World Order, there would be a link between religion and state. A religion with congregations worldwide would be part of it and would have influence in government (politicians, law enforcement, judicial system, military and maybe even human rights groups).

The other possibility of the NWO is the APPEARANCE of the “fall of Babylon” in Rev 14:8 (the EU and UN collapse, fall of governments, fall of the banking system and even possibly the fall of organized religion).

According to the forum article, the peace treaty could be mediated by the antichrist and it allows Israel to function peacefully with Muslims.  Here’s other things: George Soros is supposedly Jewish, as is the Rothschild family. something of note in the article is that he influenced the collapse of Communism.  There are also many articles mentioning the Rothschild family was responsible for the rise and fall of Communism.  He also funds liberal and progressive causes through his “Open Society Foundation.”

Other things to consider:

Jacob Rothschild is partnering with Rupert Murdoch in a Syria project (Murdoch is right wing).

The Koch Brothers fund the Republicans and conservatives.

Putin and Trump are billionaires in their own right.

Jared Kushner recently purchased the landmark Watchtower building in Brooklyn NY and also supposedly owes Soros $200+ million.

As mentioned, the fourth seal (according to the below verse) would have to happen before the Great Tribulation.

Revelation 6:7-8 King James Version (KJV)

And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

In a previous article “The Seven Seals of Revelation” the possibilities were World War 1, World War 3 or the start being WW1.  Go under the assumption of the third possibility.  Famine has existed since then (and that includes the Great Depression).  Other than the period between Nov 11, 1918 and Sept 1, 1939 (the most accurate timeframe to describe the prophecy of Rev 8:1), the world has been at war since 1914 on an international level (WW2, Korean War, Cold War, Vietnam, Iran-Iraq, Desert Storm/Shield, post 9/11 and ongoing Middle East conflict).  Recently, there have been an increase in earthquakes, mass shootings, and civil unrest worldwide.

Since WW1 to present time, those killed in wars, earthquakes and famine are considerably less than 1/4 of the earth population (123 million war, approx. 100 million famine and about 1 million earthquake; the largest disease epidemic was 50 million dead after WW1).  The bulk would have to be during World War 3.

Consider the following verses:

Matthew 24:5-6 King James Version (KJV)

For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Consider verse 5 being fulfilled by the Millerites, Joseph Smith (founder of the Mormons), Ellen G White.  There has been a rise of “restorationist” churches since the late 19th century that claim to be the “true church” (most, if not all, are non-Trinitarian) and recently Catholicism has been making that claim that it is the original “church of Christ.”  Included among this are spinoff groups that claim their original sect is a false religion.  In short, Christendom is confusing to say the least and this blog overall has determined there are many gray areas in doctrine or things being held back by religious leaders. Examine the “about” page and statements of faith in the links.

World War 1 is the fulfillment of verse 6.

One needs to read the remainder of Matt 24. This would apply to the events after the fourth seal.  One has to admit that verse 11 applies to the modern day (people like Kenneth Copeland, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, Joel Osteen and even a resurgence of Jim Bakker) and Rev 14:7 is exposure of them with the assistance of the secular community.

At the current moment, there is a significant amount of activity in Syria, North Korea and South Korea are negotiating the end of the conflict.  Also, the opening of  a temporary US Embassy in Jerusalem happened May 14, 2018. There was also a major chemical attack in Syria that killed a large number of civilians.

In some of the other articles, it is apparent that the beast consists of the political arm (Bilderberg, United Nations and European Union), the financial arm (the Rothschild banking system that includes the Federal Reserve and central banks in all but 4 countries) and the religious arm (the Papacy).  Vladimir Putin and Rodrigo Duterte have vowed to remove Rothschild central banks from their countries and the former has vowed to crush “New World Order.” The current Pope has promoted a One World Government and One World Religion but would it happen during the last 3.5 years of the Tribulation?

A significant event in 2018 is the midterm elections for Congress (all seats in the house are up for election and 33 senate seats are up).  If there is a 2/3 majority of Democrats, there is a possibility of Donald Trump being considered for impeachment as President of the United States.

This video may not EXACTLY happen on May 14, 2018 but what is currently happening in the Middle East describes it. World War 3 would be in the equation. there are theories that Abaddon is a demon or actually sent by God to destroy those that aren’t sealed.

Revelation 9:11 King James Version (KJV)

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.


Revelation 9:15-21 King James Version (KJV)

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. 16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. 17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. 18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths. 19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt. 20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: 21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. review this one because it shows the relationship between the four angels and the “angel from the east”  This article seems to think ISIS (and its cells) worldwide given there are 1.3 billion Muslims.  The logistics of putting together 200 million armed forces seems to be impossible (even a country the size of China would have difficulty).  Beheading by ISIS seems to be prevalent in the Middle East with some in Mindanao Philippines (Abu Sayaaf beheading Catholics mainly) and there is a lot of unrest in Europe caused by migrant refugees. Armstrongism believes that their group will congregate in a specific spot during the the Great Tribulation.  They also believe the army of 200 million will come from Russia and their satellites.

The Jehovah’s Witnesses and some other doomsday groups are preparing underground bunkers for the Great Tribulation.

It is apparent some non mainstream religions might be preparing for armed conflict during the Great Tribulation.

Given that the current population of the world is 7 billion, 2.3 billion would be killed by this “army of 200 million.”  It would also seem impossible that 200 million ISIS could kill that many people. Also in Rev 6:7-8 when the fourth seal is opened, the pale horse with Death and Hades following.  Are the four horsemen of Rev 6 the same as the four angels released at the sixth trumpet?  The events of Rev 6:8 could be serial with Rev 9:15-21. this indicates a possibility.

If the first horseman represents the Anti Christ (with the first seal), it would indicate possibly it would be the office of the Papacy (which a number seem to think so).

If the second horseman represents War (with the 2nd seal), it would indicate the presence of major world wars since 1914.  Also, during the early part of the 20th century was the rise of the Federal Reserve bank and the UN.  The rise and fall of communism happened between 1917-1991 (Eastern Europe fell between 1989-1991) and supposedly the Rothschild family funded this.

The third horseman would represent famine and pestilence (which is current).  The Great Depression was in 1929. Africa is wrought with famine.

If one looks at the article, the fourth horseman represents Death.  It kills 1/4 of the population by sword and famine.  Africa has a population of 1.2 billion and seems to have a great degree of hunger and famine.  1/4 of the earth population is 1.75 billion.

At any rate, regardless of what any train of thought is, the first four horsemen are already present and waiting to be unleashed.

The events of Rev 9:15-16 and Dan 12:12 are the punishment of those rebellious to God and it a strong possibility the “rapture of the church” will occur at the start of this 45 day period.

Population statistics at this moment:

Africa 1.2 billion (Egypt 95 million).

North America 579 million (US is 300 million)

Asia  4.47 billion (Russia 195 million, India and China 1.3 billion each, Philippines 85 million, Japan 127 million, Pakistan 193 million).

Eastern Europe 291 million

Western Europe 397.5 million

South America 422.5 million

Middle East 411 million (cross section of other four).  one could analyze how many reserves could be called up.  Vietnam, North and South Korea each have 5 million reserves.  India has over 2.8 million reserves. Russia 2.5 million. Brazil about 1.7 million. Taiwan 1.7 million.   China 1.4 million. Ukraine 1 million. US 990 thousand (800K active).

11.4 million reserves could be called from communist countries.

Question is who all would be involved in WW3?

The sixth trumpet is when God would pull the stops out on the four angels to let them wreak havoc on the planet and, again, it is a punishment of the rebellious. It is possible the four angels have been acting in limited capability starting at the fourth century. this Armstrongist sect seems to think the “fall of Babylon” will be the US, Great Britain and Israel.

The end of the Tribulation:

Matthew 24:29-31 King James Version (KJV)

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Current events:

Oct 25, 2018 – according to several news reports, Trump is supposed to reveal a Middle East peace plan by Feb 2019.  Midterm elections could have an effect.  France is willing to unveil one if Trump doesn’t.  Just have to observe when it is signed.

Also think about this other recent thing in Saudi Arabia

One World Religion in work? Best to let it play out and see what happens.  Most of the thing about One World Government, One World Religion, the UN and Rothschild banking system is that the videos tend to come from right wing evangelicals (aka Right Wing Fundamentalist Trinitarians).  These things are cause for concern but not something to lose sleep over.