In some of my previous blogs, I pointed out some differences.
- The KJV has 54 instances of “hell”. A better sub-definition was obtained in ASV: Gehenna and hell = fire, Hades and Sheol are the common grave of mankind, the Abyss is Satan’s prison during the 1000 years. NWT shows “Tartarus” as the “chains of darkness” in 2 Peter 2:4.
- Heb 1:8 says “thy throne, O God” in most but NWT and Moffatt say “God is thy throne.” However, read verse 9. That could make verse 8 an expression.
Hebrews 1:9New King James Version (NKJV)
9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”[a]
- John 8:1-11 is missing in NWT. This is a critical verse because Jesus says “let he who has no sin be the one to cast the first stone.”
- NWT and REV Acts 20:28 say “the congregation of God which he has purchased with the blood of his son” vs “church of God, which he has purchased with his own blood” (KJV) or “church of the Lord, which he has purchased with his own blood” (ASV). GNT calls it “church of God purchased with the blood of His Son” (NWT and REV say “congregation of God”). ASV was used to support Eph 5:23, Col 1:18, Matt 16:18 and Rom 16:16 that all indicate Christ is the head of the church.
- ASV has 5822 instances of “Jehovah” in the Old Testament and REV (Revised English Version) has 5822 instances of Yahweh. The Tetragrammaton is “YHWH.”
- Moffatt and REV are the only ones so far that specifically use John 1:1 as an adjective (“the Word was divine,” and “the Word was what God was,” respectively). NWT specifically uses John 1:1 as a noun “the Word was a god.” The other translations CAN be used as adjectives.
Well here are some other things uncovered during participation in discussions:
Acts 8:37King James Version (KJV) – this verse is missing in NWT and some others.
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Psalm 83:18King James Version (KJV) – Jehovah’s Witnesses are quick to point out this verse (it is missing in NIV) because it says God’s name is Jehovah; some others say God’s name is the Lord. The REV calls Him Yahweh.
18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.
1 Corinthians 10:9King James Version (KJV) – this uses “Jehovah” in NWT. Some versions say “Lord” but it should refer to Jesus.
9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
Matthew 6:13King James Version (KJV) – this just popped up and now I know why the Catholic version of the Lord’s Prayer differed from the Protestant version. Research shows that the phrase beyond the colon is missing from quite a few translations (for certain, KJV, NKJV and AMP have it; NIV, ESV, ASV and Douay are missing it). The Lord’s Prayer is not even recognizable in MSG.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
Isaiah 46:11King James Version (KJV) – the “bird of prey” in relation to “the angel from the east” in Rev 7:2-5. MSG and AMP SPECIFICALLY call out Cyrus (this was noted in an apologetic blog and it was used against a certain religion). The others leave it open as to who the angel from the east is (it is definitely not Jesus because it was shown in another blog that He is not an angel based on Heb 1). What we do know is that the angel from east tells the 4 winds not to harm the trees until the 144,000 are sealed. The whole prophecy includes Isaiah 43:5-6 (about gathering from the west and the north and south giving up) and Matt 24 (about the last days).
11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.
Hard core Fundamentalists insist that the KJV is the only real bible and hard core JWs insist that NWT is the only real bible. MSG (the Message) is a paraphrase written by a Presbyterian pastor and the author points out this isn’t to be used for doctrine; furthermore, a lot of extra verbiage is added. Sometimes comparing versions makes it easier to understand. In these blogs, I will use KJV for the most part. Other bibles I use are Moffatt, NIV, REV, NKJV, ASV and NWT.
REV and NWT replace the word “church” with “congregation.”
NWT shows that Christ died on a torture stake. However, even in it, the words “nails” are present in John 20:25 and this would tend to indicate a cross. Also, the sign is above Jesus’ head.
Even in the NWT black vs gray there are changes. The black version is offered as an iPhone app in French-English and the word “soul” is present in 1 Peter 1:9. Heb 12:14 shows “grand master” is used in the black version and it is changed to “Lord” in the gray; this was brought out on a group that someone mentioned Masonic ties (Charles Taze Russell has a pyramid by his grave).
What wasn’t pointed out previously is that the Douay-Rheims bible has 113 instances of “hell” in it.
1 John 5:7-8New King James Version (NKJV)
7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness on earth:[a] the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one.
The above is another missing verbage in other translations. The only ones that have all of verse 7 intact are KJV, NKJV, Douay. A random sample at Bible Gateway showed that so NIV will be posted. Again, MSG isn’t even recognizable.
1 John 5:7-8New International Version (NIV)
7 For there are three that testify: 8 the[a] Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.
Another one discovered perusing YouTube:
Luke 9:54-56King James Version (KJV)
54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. 56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.
Quite a few have only “And they went to another village” (NIV, ESV, ASV). NKJV, AMP, Douay have the first half (“For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them”).
Mark 16:9-20 are missing from the NWT. This was discovered during a search where Jesus is called Lord.
Mark 16:19New International Version (NIV)
19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God.
The entire passage from verse 9 through 20 concerns Jesus appearing to Mary Magdalene, the apostles and then being called to heaven and finally the apostles going out and preaching.
Revelation is a prophecy.
- The angel from the east in 7:2-5 is disputed. Some say Cyrus, some say a specific person in the 19th-21st centuries, and some say Jesus. What is shown is it instructs the four winds not to harm the sea or trees until the 144K are being called.
- IF Rev 8:1 is, in fact, the exact period between the end of WW1 and start of WW2 (which is shown mathematically as 20 years and approximately 10 months), we can conclude two things:
- If chronological, the first resurrection has already happened and anyone alive after 1918 will stand in front of the throne for final judgment.
- Most likely not chronological since Rev 7:14-18 is an event of immense proportions.
- For that matter, the 7th seal could occur before 1 thru 6. 1 Thess 4:16-17, Rev 6:1 and Rev 19:11-13 appear to coincide. The 5th seal would appear to be coincident with Rev 20:4-5. The 6th seal is quite possibly the start of “Armageddon.”
- Rev 6:8 could apply to WW1 since it was fought over an area of 1/4 of the earth’s surface. The other avenue is literally 1/4 of the population will be killed, which hasn’t happened yet.
- The millennium has two extemes: a total wasteland inhabited by Satan’s angels and a paradise.
- If a wasteland, are Rev 20:8-9 and 12-15 parallel events? It also gives rise to the possibility of the second resurrection in two phases based on Rev 19:20. The first phase is the beast, the false prophets and those with the mark of the beast and that does make sense because these are who await Satan in Rev 20:10. The second phase is the remaining dead in Rev 20:12-15.
- If a paradise, one would think it initially starts as a wasteland. BUT, based on Rev 20:8-9, it would end since Satan is released at the end.
- The problem with the millennium in progress and Armageddon (which is another interpretation of Rev 20:8-9) occurring at the close is the rampant evil present in modern society. The bible specifically says in Rev 20:1 that Satan was imprisoned for 1000 years.
Rejection of Apostle Paul’s teachings or not using the Old Testament….
- Apostle Paul’s teachings comprise about 2/3 of the New Testament. Some are critical to debunking certain erroneous teachings (like Michael being Jesus or Jesus being the angel from the east) and a majority of the verses about the church of Christ come from them. One consequence of this implies that Christians could be wandering aimlessly since it could be interpreted that one would have to be resurrected to be in the church; granted a lot of organizations that use the name would not meet the criteria listed in the post “church/congregation of Christ.”
- A lot of teachings in the Old Testament go hand in hand. Some with say Mosaic law is superseded by Christian law. There are some things that God said Himself in the OT.
- Rev 22:19 says if one takes away the words of this prophecy, his name will be taken from the Book of Life.
The oldest bible is the Latin Vulgate (aka Douay Rheims). Some say that many verses were omitted (possibly the Dead Sea Scrolls) when Catholic scholars translated the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts. The King James Version was created after the Protestant Reformation. Some KJV-only fans claim that the “modern” translations are an attempt by Catholicism to distort the bible. One group says the Moffatt is an attempt to downplay the divinity of Jesus. New World Translation supposedly has been revised to fit the doctrine of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Revised English Version is an attempt to reconcile the American Standard Version and Kingdom Interlinear with the biggest change being replacing “Jehovah” with “Yahweh” in the Old Testament plus it is almost similar to NWT but the missing verses are in gray text (two notable differences are John 1:1 and Heb 1:8).
This blog will be expanded as more is discovered. NKJV and KJV should be one’s primary bibles. NIV, REV, ASV, Moffatt, NWT, et al should be only for clarification or comparison. MSG, as has been discovered, does not even resemble the other versions and contains excessive verbiage. NWT, for the most part, is missing a number of verses.